Friday, December 19, 2008
Thursday, December 18, 2008
Does the Watchtower Really Follow the Bible?
My invitation to the Watchtower Bible School of Gilead, and the scripture that caused me to feel fearful with doubt when I first arrived at Gilead. It was scary beginning to wonder if I had the truth, having just arrived at Patterson NY.
Ex-Gilead Missionary - Intro
Ex-Gilead Missionary introduces a new series of videos explaining why he left Jehovah's Witnesses after 24 years "in the truth". A graduate of the 115th class of Gilead, reading the Bible was the key to seeing the truth about Jehovah's Witnesses.
Friday, October 3, 2008
Wednesday, September 17, 2008
Watchtower Comments - Child Baptism
Why Jehovah's Witnesses baptize their children young - in spite of, or because of the consequences? From the April 15, 2008 Watchtower. Studied the week of July 21-27, 2008
Friday, September 12, 2008
Monday, September 8, 2008
Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Is voting a conscience matter or not?
From the Watchtower w99 11/1 pp. 28-29 Questions From Readers - How do Jehovah’s Witnesses view voting?
However in the uw (United Worship book) chap.21p.166 par.12 TheyAreNoPartoftheWorld"
There are clear principles set out in the Bible that enable servants of God to take a proper view of this matter. However, there appears to be no principle against the practice of voting itself. For example, there is no reason why a board of directors should not take a vote in order to arrive at decisions affecting their corporation. Congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses often make decisions about meeting times and the use of congregation funds by voting with a show of hands.
What, though, of voting in political elections? Of course, in some democratic lands, as many as 50 percent of the population do not turn out to vote on election day. As for Jehovah’s Witnesses, they do not interfere with the right of others to vote; neither do they in any way campaign against political elections. They respect and cooperate with the authorities who are duly elected in such elections. (Romans 13:1-7) As to whether they will personally vote for someone running in an election, each one of Jehovah’s Witnesses makes a decision based on his Bible-trained conscience and an understanding of his responsibility to God and to the State. (Matthew 22:21; 1 Peter 3:16) In making this personal decision, the Witnesses consider a number of factors.
First, Jesus Christ said of his followers: "They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world." (John 17:14) Jehovah’s Witnesses take this principle seriously. Being "no part of the world," they are neutral in the political affairs of the world.—John 18:36.
Second, the apostle Paul referred to himself as an "ambassador" representing Christ to the people of his day. (Ephesians 6:20; 2 Corinthians 5:20) Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Christ Jesus is now the enthroned King of God’s heavenly Kingdom, and they, like ambassadors, must announce this to the nations. (Matthew 24:14; Revelation 11:15) Ambassadors are expected to be neutral and not to interfere in the internal affairs of the countries to which they are sent. As representatives of God’s heavenly Kingdom, Jehovah’s Witnesses feel a similar obligation not to interfere in the politics of the countries where they reside.
A third factor to consider is that those who have a part in voting a person into office may become responsible for what he does. (Compare 1 Timothy 5:22, TheNewEnglishBible.) Christians have to consider carefully whether they want to shoulder that responsibility.
Fourth, Jehovah’s Witnesses greatly value their Christian unity. (Colossians 3:14) When religions get involved in politics, the result is often division among their members. In imitation of Jesus Christ, Jehovah’s Witnesses avoid becoming involved in politics and thus maintain their Christian unity.—Matthew 12:25; John 6:15; 18:36, 37.
Fifth and finally, their keeping out of politics gives Jehovah’s Witnesses freeness of speech to approach people of all political persuasions with the important message of the Kingdom.—Hebrews 10:35.
In view of the Scriptural principles outlined above, in many lands Jehovah’s Witnesses make a personal decision not to vote in political elections, and their freedom to make that decision is supported by the law of the land. What, though, if the law requires citizens to vote? In such a case, each Witness is responsible to make a conscientious, Bible-based decision about how to handle the situation. If someone decides to go to the polling booth, that is his decision. What he does in the polling booth is between him and his Creator.
The November 15, 1950, issue of TheWatchtower, on pages 445 and 446, said: "Where Caesar makes it compulsory for citizens to vote . . . [Witnesses] can go to the polls and enter the voting booths. It is here that they are called upon to mark the ballot or write in what they stand for. The voters do what they will with their ballots. So here in the presence of God is where his witnesses must act in harmony with his commandments and in accordance with their faith. It is not our responsibility to instruct them what to do with the ballot."
What if a Christian woman’s unbelieving husband insists that she present herself to vote? Well, she is subject to her husband, just as Christians are subject to the superior authorities. (Ephesians 5:22; 1 Peter 2:13-17) If she obeys her husband and goes to the polling booth, that is her personal decision. No one should criticize her.—Compare Romans 14:4.
What of a country where voting is not mandated by law but feelings run high against those who do not go to the voting booth—perhaps they are exposed to physical danger? Or what if individuals, while not legally obliged to vote, are severely penalized in some way if they do not go to the polling booth? In these and similar situations, a Christian has to make his own decision. "Each one will carry his own load."—Galatians 6:5.
There may be people who are stumbled when they observe that during an election in their country, some Witnesses of Jehovah go to the polling booth and others do not. They may say, ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses are not consistent.’ People should recognize, though, that in matters of individual conscience such as this, each Christian has to make his own decision before Jehovah God.—Romans 14:12.
Whatever personal decisions Jehovah’s Witnesses make in the face of different situations, they take care to preserve their Christian neutrality and freeness of speech. In all things, they rely on Jehovah God to strengthen them, give them wisdom, and help them avoid compromising their faith in any way. Thus they show confidence in the words of the psalmist: "You are my crag and my stronghold; and for the sake of your name you will lead me and conduct me."—Psalm 31:3.
However in the uw (United Worship book) chap.21p.166 par.12 TheyAreNoPartoftheWorld"
In sharp contrast, the clergy of Christendom are very much involved in the political affairs of the world. In some lands they actively campaign for or against candidates. Some of the clergy themselves hold political office. Others exert great pressure on politicians to favor programs that the clergy approve. Elsewhere the "conservative" clergy are close allies of the men in power while "progressive" priests and ministers may be supporting guerrilla movements working for their overthrow. However, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not meddle in politics, no matter what the country in which they live. They do not interfere with what others do as to joining a political party, running for office or voting in elections. But, since Jesus said that his disciples would be "no part of the world," Jehovah’s Witnesses take no part whatsoever in political activities.
The 1954 Walsh Trial - Watchtower Admits False Prophesy in Court of Law
It is a transcript from a court trial in 1954 where members of the Governing Body admitted under oath that they have promoted false dates and that they would disfellowship those who refuse to believe the false dates, because unity means more to them than actual truth.
The Douglas Walsh Trial - Watchtower Admits False Prophesy in Court of Law
In November 1954, a trial was held in Scotland, in which the Watchtower Society tried to establish before the British court that certain of its members were ordained ministers. High ranking leaders of the Society testified, including vice-president Fred Franz and lawyers for the Society, Haydon C. Covington. Covington's testimony before the lawyer for the Ministry of Labour and National Service included the following:
Q. Is it not vital to speak the truth on religious matters?
A. It certainly is.
Q. Is there in your view room in a religion for a change of interpretation of Holy Writ from time to time?
A. There is every reason for a change in interpretation as we view it, of the Bible. Our view becomes more clear as we see the prophesy fulfilled by time.
Q. You have promulgated -- forgive the word -- false prophesy?
A. We have -- I do not think we have promulgated false prophesy, there have been statements that were erroneous, that is the way I put it, and mistaken.
Q. Is it a most vital consideration in the present situation of the world to know if the prophesy can be interpreted into terms of fact, when Christ's Second Coming was?
A. That is true, and we have always striven to see that we have the truth before we utter it. We go on the very best information we have but we cannot wait until we get perfect, because if we wait until we get perfect we would never be able to speak.
Q. Let us follow that up just a little. It was promulgated as a matter which must be believed by all members of Jehovah's Witnesses that the Lord's Second Coming took place in 1874?
A. I am not familiar with that. You are speaking on a matter that I know nothing of.
Q. You heard Mr. Franz's evidence?
A. I heard Mr. Franz testify, but I am not familiar with what he said on that, I mean the subject matter of what he was talking about, so I cannot answer any more than you can, having heard what he said.
Q. Leave me out of it?
A. That is the source of my information, what I have heard in court.
Q. You have studied the literature of your movement?
A. Yes, but not all of it. I have not studied the seven volumes of "Studies in the Scriptures," and I have not studied this matter that you are mentioning now of 1874. I am not at all familiar with that.
Q. Assume from me that it was promulgated as authoritative by the Society that Christ's Second Coming was in 1874?
A. Taking that assumption as a fact, it is a hypothetical statement.
Q. That was the publication of false prophesy?
A. That was the publication of a false prophesy, it was a false statement or an erroneous statement in fulfillment of a prophesy that was false or erroneous.
Q. And that had to be believed by the whole of Jehovah's Witnesses?
A. Yes, because you must understand we must have unity, we cannot have disunity with a lot of people going every way, an army is supposed to march in step.
Q. You do not believe in the worldly armies, do you?
A. We believe in the Christian Army of God.
Q. Do you believe in the worldly armies?
A. We have nothing to say about that, we do not preach against them, we merely say that the worldly armies, like the nations of the world today, are a part of Satan's Organization, and we do not take part in them, but we do not say the nations cannot have their armies, we do not preach against warfare, we are merely claiming our exemption from it, that is all.
Q. Back to the point now. A false prophesy was promulgated?
A. I agree that.
Q. It had to be accepted by Jehovah's Witnesses?
A. That is correct.
Q. If a member of Jehovah's Witnesses took the view himself that that prophesy was wrong and said so he would be disfellowshipped?
A. Yes, if he said so and kept persisting in creating trouble, because if the whole organisation believes one thing, even though it be erroneous and somebody else starts on his own trying to put his ideas across then there is disunity and trouble, there cannot be harmony, there cannot be marching. When a change comes it should come from the proper source, the head of the organisation, the governing body, not from the bottom upwards, because everybody would have ideas, and the organisation would disintegrate and go in a thousand different directions. Our purpose is to have unity.
Q. Unity at all costs?
A. Unity at all costs, because we believe and are sure that Jehovah God is using our organisation, the governing body of our organisation to direct it, even though mistakes are made from time to time.
Q. And unity based upon an enforced acceptance of false prophecy?
A. That is conceded to be true.
Q. And the person who expressed his view, as you say, that it was wrong, and was disfellowshipped, would be in breach of the Covenant, if he was baptized?
A. That is correct.
Q. And as you said yesterday expressly, would be worthy of death?
A. I think - - -
Q. Would you say yes or no?
A. I will answer yes, unhesitatingly.
Q. Do you call that religion?
A. It certainly is.
Q. Do you call it Christianity?
A. I certainly do.
Fred Franz, then vice-president of the Society, also answered questions for the attorney for the Ministry of Labour and National Service.
Q. In addition to these regular publications do you prepare and issue a number of theological pamphlets and books from time to time?
A. Yes.
Q. Can you tell me this; are these theological publications and the semi-monthly periodicals used for discussion of statements of doctrine?
A. Yes.
Q. Are these statements of doctrine held to be authoritative within the Society?
A. Yes.
Q. Is their acceptance a matter of choice, or is it obligatory on all those who wish to be and remain members of the Society?
A. It is obligatory.
The British government counsellor later directed attention to certain teachings that the Society had in time rejected, including some involving specific dates. What, he asked, if someone, at the time when such teaching was promulgated, had seen the error in it and had therefore not accepted it? What would the organization's attitude toward such one be? The testimony explains:
Q. Did [Pastor Russell] not fix 1874 as some other crucial date?
A. 1874 used to be understood as the date of Jesus' Second Coming spiritually.
Q. Do you say, used to be understood?
A. That is right.
Q. That was issued as a fact which was to be accepted by all who were Jehovah's Witnesses?
A. Yes.
Q. That is no longer now accepted, is it?
A. No.
Q. But it was a calculation which is no longer accepted by the Board of Directors of the Society?
A. That is correct.
Q. So that am I correct, I am just anxious to canvas the position; it became the bounden duty of the Witnesses to accept this miscalculation?
A. Yes.
Q. So that what is published as the truth today by the Society may have to be admitted to be wrong in a few years?
A. We have to wait and see.
Q. And in the meantime the body of Jehovah's Witnesses have been following error?
A. They have been following misconstructions on the Scriptures.
Q. Error?
A. Well, error.
Again the question as to how great the authority attributed to the Society's publications is came in for discussion. While at one point the vice president says that "one does not compulsorily accept," his testimony thereafter reverts back to the earlier position, as can be seen:
A. These [Watchtower Society] books give an exposition on the whole Scriptures.
Q. But an authoritative exposition?
A. They submit the Bible or the statements that are therein made, and the individual examines the statement and then the Scripture to see that the statement is Scripturally supported.
Q. He what?
A. He examines the Scripture to see whether the statement is supported by the Scripture. As the Apostle says: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good".
Q. I understood the position to be - do please correct me if I am wrong - that a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses must accept as a true Scripture and interpretation what is given in the books I referred you to?
A. But he does not compulsorily do so, he is given his Christian right of examining the Scriptures to confirm that this is Scripturally sustained.
Q. And if he finds that the Scripture is not sustained by the books, or vice versa, what does he do?
A. The Scripture is there in support of the statement, that is why it is put there.
Q. What does a man do if he finds a disharmony between the Scripture and those books?
A. You will have to produce me a man who does find that, then I can answer, or he will answer.
Note Franz's waffling. He is unwilling, even under oath, to admit that present understanding can be in error, even though he just finished testifying that what is published as truth today may be error in a few years.
Q. Did you imply that the individual member has the right of reading the books and the Bible and forming his own view as to the proper interpretation of Holy Writ?
A. He comes - - -
Q. Would you say yes or no, and then qualify?
A. No. Do you want me to qualify now?
Q. Yes, if you wish?
A. The Scripture is there given in support of the statement, and therefore the individual when he looks up the Scripture and thereby verifies the statement, then he comes to the Scriptural view of the matter, Scriptural understanding as it is written in Acts, the seventeenth chapter and the eleventh verse, that the Bereans were more noble than those of Thessalonica in that they received the Word with all readiness, and they searched the Scripture to see whether those things were so, and we instruct to follow that noble course of the Bereans in searching the Scripture to see whether these things were so.
Q. A Witness has no alternative, has he, to accept as authoritative and to be obeyed instructions issued in the "Watchtower" or the "Informant" or "Awake"?
A. He must accept those.
The Douglas Walsh Trial - Watchtower Admits False Prophesy in Court of Law
In November 1954, a trial was held in Scotland, in which the Watchtower Society tried to establish before the British court that certain of its members were ordained ministers. High ranking leaders of the Society testified, including vice-president Fred Franz and lawyers for the Society, Haydon C. Covington. Covington's testimony before the lawyer for the Ministry of Labour and National Service included the following:
Q. Is it not vital to speak the truth on religious matters?
A. It certainly is.
Q. Is there in your view room in a religion for a change of interpretation of Holy Writ from time to time?
A. There is every reason for a change in interpretation as we view it, of the Bible. Our view becomes more clear as we see the prophesy fulfilled by time.
Q. You have promulgated -- forgive the word -- false prophesy?
A. We have -- I do not think we have promulgated false prophesy, there have been statements that were erroneous, that is the way I put it, and mistaken.
Q. Is it a most vital consideration in the present situation of the world to know if the prophesy can be interpreted into terms of fact, when Christ's Second Coming was?
A. That is true, and we have always striven to see that we have the truth before we utter it. We go on the very best information we have but we cannot wait until we get perfect, because if we wait until we get perfect we would never be able to speak.
Q. Let us follow that up just a little. It was promulgated as a matter which must be believed by all members of Jehovah's Witnesses that the Lord's Second Coming took place in 1874?
A. I am not familiar with that. You are speaking on a matter that I know nothing of.
Q. You heard Mr. Franz's evidence?
A. I heard Mr. Franz testify, but I am not familiar with what he said on that, I mean the subject matter of what he was talking about, so I cannot answer any more than you can, having heard what he said.
Q. Leave me out of it?
A. That is the source of my information, what I have heard in court.
Q. You have studied the literature of your movement?
A. Yes, but not all of it. I have not studied the seven volumes of "Studies in the Scriptures," and I have not studied this matter that you are mentioning now of 1874. I am not at all familiar with that.
Q. Assume from me that it was promulgated as authoritative by the Society that Christ's Second Coming was in 1874?
A. Taking that assumption as a fact, it is a hypothetical statement.
Q. That was the publication of false prophesy?
A. That was the publication of a false prophesy, it was a false statement or an erroneous statement in fulfillment of a prophesy that was false or erroneous.
Q. And that had to be believed by the whole of Jehovah's Witnesses?
A. Yes, because you must understand we must have unity, we cannot have disunity with a lot of people going every way, an army is supposed to march in step.
Q. You do not believe in the worldly armies, do you?
A. We believe in the Christian Army of God.
Q. Do you believe in the worldly armies?
A. We have nothing to say about that, we do not preach against them, we merely say that the worldly armies, like the nations of the world today, are a part of Satan's Organization, and we do not take part in them, but we do not say the nations cannot have their armies, we do not preach against warfare, we are merely claiming our exemption from it, that is all.
Q. Back to the point now. A false prophesy was promulgated?
A. I agree that.
Q. It had to be accepted by Jehovah's Witnesses?
A. That is correct.
Q. If a member of Jehovah's Witnesses took the view himself that that prophesy was wrong and said so he would be disfellowshipped?
A. Yes, if he said so and kept persisting in creating trouble, because if the whole organisation believes one thing, even though it be erroneous and somebody else starts on his own trying to put his ideas across then there is disunity and trouble, there cannot be harmony, there cannot be marching. When a change comes it should come from the proper source, the head of the organisation, the governing body, not from the bottom upwards, because everybody would have ideas, and the organisation would disintegrate and go in a thousand different directions. Our purpose is to have unity.
Q. Unity at all costs?
A. Unity at all costs, because we believe and are sure that Jehovah God is using our organisation, the governing body of our organisation to direct it, even though mistakes are made from time to time.
Q. And unity based upon an enforced acceptance of false prophecy?
A. That is conceded to be true.
Q. And the person who expressed his view, as you say, that it was wrong, and was disfellowshipped, would be in breach of the Covenant, if he was baptized?
A. That is correct.
Q. And as you said yesterday expressly, would be worthy of death?
A. I think - - -
Q. Would you say yes or no?
A. I will answer yes, unhesitatingly.
Q. Do you call that religion?
A. It certainly is.
Q. Do you call it Christianity?
A. I certainly do.
Fred Franz, then vice-president of the Society, also answered questions for the attorney for the Ministry of Labour and National Service.
Q. In addition to these regular publications do you prepare and issue a number of theological pamphlets and books from time to time?
A. Yes.
Q. Can you tell me this; are these theological publications and the semi-monthly periodicals used for discussion of statements of doctrine?
A. Yes.
Q. Are these statements of doctrine held to be authoritative within the Society?
A. Yes.
Q. Is their acceptance a matter of choice, or is it obligatory on all those who wish to be and remain members of the Society?
A. It is obligatory.
The British government counsellor later directed attention to certain teachings that the Society had in time rejected, including some involving specific dates. What, he asked, if someone, at the time when such teaching was promulgated, had seen the error in it and had therefore not accepted it? What would the organization's attitude toward such one be? The testimony explains:
Q. Did [Pastor Russell] not fix 1874 as some other crucial date?
A. 1874 used to be understood as the date of Jesus' Second Coming spiritually.
Q. Do you say, used to be understood?
A. That is right.
Q. That was issued as a fact which was to be accepted by all who were Jehovah's Witnesses?
A. Yes.
Q. That is no longer now accepted, is it?
A. No.
Q. But it was a calculation which is no longer accepted by the Board of Directors of the Society?
A. That is correct.
Q. So that am I correct, I am just anxious to canvas the position; it became the bounden duty of the Witnesses to accept this miscalculation?
A. Yes.
Q. So that what is published as the truth today by the Society may have to be admitted to be wrong in a few years?
A. We have to wait and see.
Q. And in the meantime the body of Jehovah's Witnesses have been following error?
A. They have been following misconstructions on the Scriptures.
Q. Error?
A. Well, error.
Again the question as to how great the authority attributed to the Society's publications is came in for discussion. While at one point the vice president says that "one does not compulsorily accept," his testimony thereafter reverts back to the earlier position, as can be seen:
A. These [Watchtower Society] books give an exposition on the whole Scriptures.
Q. But an authoritative exposition?
A. They submit the Bible or the statements that are therein made, and the individual examines the statement and then the Scripture to see that the statement is Scripturally supported.
Q. He what?
A. He examines the Scripture to see whether the statement is supported by the Scripture. As the Apostle says: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good".
Q. I understood the position to be - do please correct me if I am wrong - that a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses must accept as a true Scripture and interpretation what is given in the books I referred you to?
A. But he does not compulsorily do so, he is given his Christian right of examining the Scriptures to confirm that this is Scripturally sustained.
Q. And if he finds that the Scripture is not sustained by the books, or vice versa, what does he do?
A. The Scripture is there in support of the statement, that is why it is put there.
Q. What does a man do if he finds a disharmony between the Scripture and those books?
A. You will have to produce me a man who does find that, then I can answer, or he will answer.
Note Franz's waffling. He is unwilling, even under oath, to admit that present understanding can be in error, even though he just finished testifying that what is published as truth today may be error in a few years.
Q. Did you imply that the individual member has the right of reading the books and the Bible and forming his own view as to the proper interpretation of Holy Writ?
A. He comes - - -
Q. Would you say yes or no, and then qualify?
A. No. Do you want me to qualify now?
Q. Yes, if you wish?
A. The Scripture is there given in support of the statement, and therefore the individual when he looks up the Scripture and thereby verifies the statement, then he comes to the Scriptural view of the matter, Scriptural understanding as it is written in Acts, the seventeenth chapter and the eleventh verse, that the Bereans were more noble than those of Thessalonica in that they received the Word with all readiness, and they searched the Scripture to see whether those things were so, and we instruct to follow that noble course of the Bereans in searching the Scripture to see whether these things were so.
Q. A Witness has no alternative, has he, to accept as authoritative and to be obeyed instructions issued in the "Watchtower" or the "Informant" or "Awake"?
A. He must accept those.
Monday, July 28, 2008
Watchtower misrepresenting quotes on education
The following was prepaired by MissingLink at JWD.
This week we reviewed the article “Young People Remember Your Grand Creator Now” from the April 15 2008 Watchtower.
Page 4 par 10 says:
This week’s article (page 14 par 11) talks about how a basic education is good (high school). Then footnote says “In regard to higher education and employment, see the Watchtower October 1 2005 pp26-31”. In this article is a box on page 29. This box is telling us that educators now believe that a college education isn’t necessary to get a good job.
The above make it appear that these authorities agree with the Watchtower Society’s view that a college education is not necessary, and in fact a waste of time. I found it very hard to believe that these people would be saying this.
Now look at what we’ve learned from the Watchtower about taking things out of context. The School Guidebook page 155 par 11 says “A word of caution. All evidence must be used honestly. Do not take a quotation out of context. Make certain that what you say is exactly what the authority you are quoting had in mind to say. Be specific in your references.” Also see Awake June 22, 2000 pp 9-11.
So – look at what these articles actually say. The above quotes are highlighted so you can see how they’re taken out of context. Read the articles below in their entirety and ask yourself “did the author have in mind to say that education was not necessary”?
#1 – Newsweek November 1, 1999
Is this saying that going to Harvard or Duke won’t provide a better job than a high school diploma? NO. In fact it says college graduates earn “much more” than high school graduates. The point of the article is that the Ivy League schools aren’t necessarily better than regular colleges if students are really working hard.
#2 - American Educator Spring 2004
All Good Jobs Don't Require a College Degree
The introduction of the article says that it is a mistake to encourage students to attend college despite their poor academic preparation. The theme of his article is that “The vast majority of students who don’t do well in high school would be better off, in terms of future income, finding a good job than going to college.” (and doing poorly in college). Because employers cannot trust that a high school diploma certifies competency, they would rather use “college degrees to signal that applicants possess high school skills. The proposal is that if instead, the high schools provided trusted signals of high school competencies, the pressure to send all students to college could diminish.” In no way is he saying that a college or university degree does not translate into a good job like the watchtower was saying.
#3 – The Futurist – July August 2000
We are educating people for the wrong futures. Most young Americans expect to have high-status and high-paying jobs. Almost one in three expects to have a professional career. Ten percent expect to work in the sports or entertainment industry. Another 10% think they will be doctors.
The reality is that traditional societal high-status jobs are in decline. The American Bar Association Journal reported that, of the law school class of 1988, 84.5% had full-time legal jobs six months after graduation. In contrast, only 69.6% of the 1994 class did, and 15.3% had no jobs-part time or otherwise.
Projections from the U.S. Department of Labor through 2005 paint the chilling scenario that at least one-third of all four-year college graduates will not find employment that matches their degrees. For those with graduate degrees in virtually all professional fields, graduates will exceed employment opportunities by at least 50%!
Meanwhile, few young people imagine themselves working in service, craft, or technical industries. Yet government labor and economic indicators predict these business sectors will create most new jobs over the next 10 to 15 years. Many economists believe that 70% of the good jobs in the current and future American economy will not require a four-year college degree; rather, they will require some form of additional training and education, such as an associate degree or technical training certificate. More than 190,000 professional technical jobs are now vacant, as employers search in vain for qualified applicants. By 2005, U.S. business will need more than one million new high-tech workers. Not only does America have an educational shortfall for a large part of its population, it is also schooling too many in its better-educated segment for the wrong occupations.
What is needed is a new definition of "career" that focuses less on a progression up a career ladder in a profession or corporation and more on recognizing opportunities and adapting. Rather than focusing on a one-career preparation path, current and future workers need a higher quality of education that integrates general knowledge in both the arts and sciences with emerging technology.
What Companies Are Doing
Nearly seven of 10 employers surveyed in 1998 said that high-school graduates lack the skills to succeed at work. The National Association of Manufacturers reported that 40% of all 17-year-olds do not have the math skills, and 60% lack the reading skills, to hold down a production job at a manufacturing company.
These gloomy surveys point to the basic reasons for the unrelenting competition for skilled labor. If businesses are to get the work force they need to succeed in the future, they must become more active in at least two ways: (1) by partnering with their local community and education system to create realistic career-preparation programs and (2) by investing in training their own employees-and developing them by encouraging lifelong learning.
This is paragraph 9 from the main watchtower article:
Another indication that going to college might not be something that Christian parents would want to do. So – Here’s the New York Times article from April 30, 2004
Was this article saying that greedy wealthy people are choosing college for their kids so that their kids can be rich an influential like themselves? Does it indicate that sending your kids to college is somehow violating some Christian ideal? That’s how the watchtower summarized it. But the article is merely saying that more aid needs to be made available so that everyone can get a college education. The problem is the price is too high and not everyone can afford it.
Do you think these quotes were deceptively used? Were they used to convey the ideas the author’s intended?
You can read the entire Newsweek article from their website here: http://www.newsweek.com/id/90037/output/print
The American educator article is here: http://www.aft.org/pubs-reports/american_educator/spring2004/collegedegree.html
This week we reviewed the article “Young People Remember Your Grand Creator Now” from the April 15 2008 Watchtower.
Page 4 par 10 says:
“What though of higher education received in a college or university? This is widely viewed as vital to success, yet, many who pursue such education end up with their minds filled with harmful propaganda. Such education wastes valuable youthful years that could best be used in Jehovah’s service. Perhaps it is not surprising that in lands where many have received such an education, belief in god is at an all time low. Rather than looking to the advanced educational systems of this world for security, a Christian trusts in Jehovah.”
This week’s article (page 14 par 11) talks about how a basic education is good (high school). Then footnote says “In regard to higher education and employment, see the Watchtower October 1 2005 pp26-31”. In this article is a box on page 29. This box is telling us that educators now believe that a college education isn’t necessary to get a good job.
What Is the Value of Higher Education?
Most people who enroll in a university look forward to earning a degree that will open doors for them to well-paying and secure jobs. Government reports show, however, that only about one quarter of those who go to college earn a degree within six years—a dismal success rate. Even so, does that degree translate into a good job? Note what current research and studies have to say.
Going to Harvard or Duke [universities] won’t automatically produce a better job and higher pay. . . . Companies don’t know much about young employment candidates. A shiny credential (an Ivy League degree) may impress. But after that, what people can or can’t do counts for more.”—Newsweek, November 1, 1999.
(#2) “While today’s typical job requires higher skills than in the past . . . , the skills required for these jobs are strong high school-level skills—math, reading, and writing at a ninth-grade level . . . , not college-level skills. . . . Students do not need to go to college to get a good job, but they do need to master high school-level skills.”—AmericanEducator, Spring 2004.
“Most colleges are seriously out of step with the real world in getting students ready to become workers in the post college world. Vocational schools . . . are seeing a mini-boom. Their enrollment grew 48% from 1996 to 2000. . . . Meanwhile, those expensive, time-sucking college diplomas have become worth less than ever.”—Time, January 24, 2005.
(#3) “Projections from the U.S. Department of Labor through 2005 paint the chilling scenario that at least one-third of all four-year college graduates will not find employment that matches their degrees.”—TheFuturist, July/August 2000.
In view of all of this, more and more educators are seriously doubting the value of higher education today. “We are educating people for the wrong futures,” laments the Futurist report. In contrast, note what the Bible says about God: “I, Jehovah, am your God, the One teaching you to benefit yourself, the One causing you to tread in the way in which you should walk. O if only you would actually pay attention to my commandments! Then your peace would become just like a river, and your righteousness like the waves of the sea.”—Isaiah 48:17, 18.
The above make it appear that these authorities agree with the Watchtower Society’s view that a college education is not necessary, and in fact a waste of time. I found it very hard to believe that these people would be saying this.
Now look at what we’ve learned from the Watchtower about taking things out of context. The School Guidebook page 155 par 11 says “A word of caution. All evidence must be used honestly. Do not take a quotation out of context. Make certain that what you say is exactly what the authority you are quoting had in mind to say. Be specific in your references.” Also see Awake June 22, 2000 pp 9-11.
So – look at what these articles actually say. The above quotes are highlighted so you can see how they’re taken out of context. Read the articles below in their entirety and ask yourself “did the author have in mind to say that education was not necessary”?
#1 – Newsweek November 1, 1999
The Worthless Ivy League?
It's no guarantee of success. Podunk's competent grads will beat Princeton's incompetentsBy Robert J. Samuelson
We all "know" that going to college is essential for economic success. The more prestigious the college, the greater the success. It's better to attend Yale or Stanford than, say, Arizona State. People with the same raw abilities do better and earn more by graduating from an elite school. The bonus flows (it's said) from better connections, brighter "peers," tougher courses or superior professors. Among many parents, the terror that their children won't go to the "right" college has supported an explosion of guidebooks, counselors and tutoring companies to help students in the admissions race.
The trouble is that what everyone knows isn't true. Going to Harvard or Duke won't automatically produce a better job and higher pay Graduates of these schools generally do well. But they do well because they're talented. Had they chosen colleges with lesser nameplates, they would (on average) have done just as well. The conclusion is that the Ivy League--a metaphor for all elite schools--has little comparative advantage. They may expose students to brilliant scholars and stimulating peers. But the schools don't make the students' success. Students create their own success; this makes the schools look good.
Evidence of this comes in a new study by Alan Krueger, an economist at Princeton, and Stacy Berg Dale, a researcher at the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation. Until now, scholarly studies had found that elite colleges lifted their graduates' incomes beyond their natural abilities. The bonus was about 3 percent to 7 percent for every 100 points of difference in SAT scores between schools. Suppose you go to Princeton and I go to Podunk; Princeton SAT scores average 100 points higher than Podunk's. After correcting for other influences (parents' income, race, gender, SAT scores, high-school rank), studies found that you would still earn a bit more. If I make $50,000, then you might make $53,500 (that's 7 percent).
But Dale and Krueger suspected that even this premium--not huge--might be a statistical quirk. The problem, they write, "is that students who attend more elite colleges may have greater earnings capacity regardless of where they attend school." Characteristics important for admission "may also be rewarded in the labor market." What might these be? Discipline. Imagination. Ambition. Perseverance. Maturity. Some exceptional ability. Admissions officers may detect these characteristics from interviews or course difficulty (different from grade average). But earlier studies didn't capture these factors.
To do so, Dale and Krueger examined the 1976 freshmen of 34 colleges. They ranged from Yale, Bryn Mawr and Swarthmore (highest in SAT scores) to Penn State and Denison University (lowest in scores). The SAT gap between top and bottom was about 200 points. Dale and Krueger knew which colleges had accepted and rejected these students as well as their future earnings. By 1995, male graduates with full-time jobs earned an average of $89,026; women earned $76,859.
Dale and Krueger then compared graduates who had been accepted and rejected by the same (or similar) colleges. The theory was that admissions officers were ranking personal qualities, from maturity to ambition. Students who fared similarly would possess similar strengths; then, Dale and Krueger compared the earnings of these students--regardless of where they went. There was no difference. Suppose that Princeton and Podunk accept you and me; but you go to Princeton and I go to Podunk. On average, we will still make the same. (The result held for blacks and whites, further weakening the case for race-based admission preferences. The only exception was poorer students, regardless of race; they gained slightly from an elite school.)
The explanation is probably simple. At most colleges, students can get a good education if they try. "An able student who attends a lower tier school can find able students to study with," write Dale and Krueger. Similarly, even elite schools have dimwits and deadbeats. Once you're in the job market, where you went to college may matter for a few years, early in your career. Companies don't know much about young employment candidates. A shiny credential (an Ivy League degree) may impress. But after that, what people can or can't do counts for more. Skills grow. Reputations emerge. Companies prefer the competent from Podunk to the incompetent from Princeton.
If you can't (or won't) take advantage of what Princeton offers, Princeton does no good. What students bring to college matters more than what colleges bring to students. The lesson has relevance beyond elite schools. As a society, we've peddled college as a cure for many ills. Society needs more skilled workers. So, send more students to college. College graduates earn much more than high-school graduates. So--to raise incomes--send more students to college. In that, we've succeeded. Perhaps three quarters of high-school graduates go to college, including community colleges.
But half or more don't finish. A new study from the Department of Education ("College for All?") reports that these students achieve only modest gains in skills and income. What determines who finishes? In another report, Clifford Adelman--a senior researcher at the Department of Education--finds that the most powerful factor is the difficulty of high-school courses. And the finding is strongest for black and Hispanic students. Not having enough money (inadequate financial aid) explains few dropouts. Tough courses do more than transmit genuine skills. They provide the experience--and instill the confidence--of completing something difficult.
How to motivate students to do their best? How to make high schools demanding while still engaging? How to transmit important values (discipline, resourcefulness, responsibility) to teenagers, caught in life's most muddled moment? These are hard questions for parents and society as a whole. If the answers were self-evident, we'd have already seized them. But going to college--even Harvard--is no shortcut.
Is this saying that going to Harvard or Duke won’t provide a better job than a high school diploma? NO. In fact it says college graduates earn “much more” than high school graduates. The point of the article is that the Ivy League schools aren’t necessarily better than regular colleges if students are really working hard.
#2 - American Educator Spring 2004
All Good Jobs Don't Require a College Degree
But getting a good job without a college degree depends a lot on high school effort--and the support a high school provides.
By James E. Rosenbaum
Encouraging students to attend college despite their poor academic preparation is a practice based in part on the premise that all decent jobs require a college education. Although average earnings are higher for those with college degrees (Carnevale and Desrochers, 2002), it is easy to misread these numbers.
First, these averages conceal much variation. College degrees do not always have payoffs. And, college degrees are not required to enter many rewarding jobs, including construction trades, clerical and administrative support, auto and airplane mechanics, printing, graphics, financial services, and many government and social services. Union electricians, machinists, tool and die makers, and sheet-metal workers, for instance, have high-demand skills, excellent benefits, good working conditions, and annual salaries that often exceed $45,000 by age 28 (and are much higher with overtime).
Second, researchers who analyze jobs and talk to employers find that while today’s typical job requires higher skills than in the past (when many jobs required only physical strength),the skills required for these jobs are strong high school-level skills—math, reading, and writing at a ninth-grade level (Murnane and Levy, 1996), not college-level skills. Similarly, new research on the skills needed for many good jobs (meaning those that pay enough to support a family and have the potential for advancement) are also high school-level skills, such as four years of English and mathematics through Algebra II (American Diploma Project, 2004). Unfortunately, over 40 percent of high-school seniors lack ninth-grade math skills and 60 percent lack ninth-grade reading skills (Murnane and Levy, 1996). So students do not need to go to college to get a good job, but they do need to master high school-level skills. Research shows that greater mastery of these skills in high school leads to higher earnings over time: For youth who get no college degree, a rise of one letter grade in their high school grade point average (from C to B) is associated with a 13 percent earnings gain at age 28! That’s almost as much as the pay differential associated with a bachelor’s degree, which is just over 14 percent more than students without a college degree (Miller, 1998; Rosenbaum, 2001). Solid high school skills prepare students for entry-level positions and keep the door to promotions open (Rosenbaum, 2001).
Third, employers report that for many jobs, non-academic skills (like timeliness, diligence, and social competence) are key (Shapiro and Iannozzi, 1999). Analyses of a national survey indicate that students’ educational attainment and earnings nine years after graduating from high school are significantly related to their non-cognitive behaviors in high school--sociability, discipline, leadership, homework time, and attendance--even after controlling for background characteristics and academic achievement (Rosenbaum, 2001). High schools can provide these skills just as well as colleges can.
Fourth, for some low-achieving high school students, getting a good job after high school can be more lucrative than trying to earn a college degree. As we saw in the main article, only about 14 percent of students with C averages or lower in high school earn a college degree (B.A. or A.A.). Of these low-GPA high school students, those who do complete a B.A. will typically earn 4.3 percent more than students without a college degree--but this is less than one-third the extra earnings that the typical college graduate enjoys. Those with low high school GPAs who earn an A.A. will typically earn 7.2 percent less than high school graduates with no college degree (Rosenbaum, 2001).
So the vast majority of students who don’t do well in high school would be better off, in terms of future income, finding a good job than going to college. But their ability to find out about these jobs, prepare for them, and get placed in them depends a lot on the support they get from their high school. Indeed, vocational teachers report that they are able to help students get jobs, even students from disadvantaged backgrounds or with disabilities. They can accomplish this because they provide employers with trusted recommendations about students? social skills and work habits.
Currently, about 9 percent of work-bound high school graduates get jobs after graduation through school-based job placement (mostly from vocational teachers). These students have 17 percent higher earnings by age 28 than students who find their own jobs after high school (Rosenbaum, 2001). Moreover, school-based job placement helps more blacks and females than white males (Rosenbaum 2001), so it helps students who normally have the greatest difficulties in the labor market.
The true lesson of the new labor market is this: For many of the skilled jobs in the new economy, what students really need is to acquire good work habits and solid high school-level skills. But, employers argue that they cannot trust that the high school diploma certifies knowledge of these high school-level skills. As a result, employers report using college degrees to signal that applicants possess high school skills. If, instead, the high schools provided trusted signals of high school competencies, the pressure to send all students to college could diminish. And let’s not forget that high schools can do a lot to help their non-college bound youth find productive jobs and lead fulfilling lives.
The introduction of the article says that it is a mistake to encourage students to attend college despite their poor academic preparation. The theme of his article is that “The vast majority of students who don’t do well in high school would be better off, in terms of future income, finding a good job than going to college.” (and doing poorly in college). Because employers cannot trust that a high school diploma certifies competency, they would rather use “college degrees to signal that applicants possess high school skills. The proposal is that if instead, the high schools provided trusted signals of high school competencies, the pressure to send all students to college could diminish.” In no way is he saying that a college or university degree does not translate into a good job like the watchtower was saying.
#3 – The Futurist – July August 2000
We are educating people for the wrong futures. Most young Americans expect to have high-status and high-paying jobs. Almost one in three expects to have a professional career. Ten percent expect to work in the sports or entertainment industry. Another 10% think they will be doctors.
The reality is that traditional societal high-status jobs are in decline. The American Bar Association Journal reported that, of the law school class of 1988, 84.5% had full-time legal jobs six months after graduation. In contrast, only 69.6% of the 1994 class did, and 15.3% had no jobs-part time or otherwise.
Projections from the U.S. Department of Labor through 2005 paint the chilling scenario that at least one-third of all four-year college graduates will not find employment that matches their degrees. For those with graduate degrees in virtually all professional fields, graduates will exceed employment opportunities by at least 50%!
Meanwhile, few young people imagine themselves working in service, craft, or technical industries. Yet government labor and economic indicators predict these business sectors will create most new jobs over the next 10 to 15 years. Many economists believe that 70% of the good jobs in the current and future American economy will not require a four-year college degree; rather, they will require some form of additional training and education, such as an associate degree or technical training certificate. More than 190,000 professional technical jobs are now vacant, as employers search in vain for qualified applicants. By 2005, U.S. business will need more than one million new high-tech workers. Not only does America have an educational shortfall for a large part of its population, it is also schooling too many in its better-educated segment for the wrong occupations.
What is needed is a new definition of "career" that focuses less on a progression up a career ladder in a profession or corporation and more on recognizing opportunities and adapting. Rather than focusing on a one-career preparation path, current and future workers need a higher quality of education that integrates general knowledge in both the arts and sciences with emerging technology.
What Companies Are Doing
Nearly seven of 10 employers surveyed in 1998 said that high-school graduates lack the skills to succeed at work. The National Association of Manufacturers reported that 40% of all 17-year-olds do not have the math skills, and 60% lack the reading skills, to hold down a production job at a manufacturing company.
These gloomy surveys point to the basic reasons for the unrelenting competition for skilled labor. If businesses are to get the work force they need to succeed in the future, they must become more active in at least two ways: (1) by partnering with their local community and education system to create realistic career-preparation programs and (2) by investing in training their own employees-and developing them by encouraging lifelong learning.
We are educating people for the wrong futures. Most young Americans expect to have high-status and high-paying jobs. Almost one in three expects to have a professional career. Ten percent expect to work in the sports or entertainment industry. Another 10% think they will be doctors.
The reality is that traditional societal high-status jobs are in decline. The American Bar Association Journal reported that, of the law school class of 1988, 84.5% had full-time legal jobs six months after graduation. In contrast, only 69.6% of the 1994 class did, and 15.3% had no jobs-part time or otherwise.
Projections from the U.S. Department of Labor through 2005 paint the chilling scenario that at least one-third of all four-year college graduates will not find employment that matches their degrees. For those with graduate degrees in virtually all professional fields, graduates will exceed employment opportunities by at least 50%!
Meanwhile, few young people imagine themselves working in service, craft, or technical industries. Yet government labor and economic indicators predict these business sectors will create most new jobs over the next 10 to 15 years. Many economists believe that 70% of the good jobs in the current and future American economy will not require a four-year college degree; rather, they will require some form of additional training and education, such as an associate degree or technical training certificate. More than 190,000 professional technical jobs are now vacant, as employers search in vain for qualified applicants. By 2005, U.S. business will need more than one million new high-tech workers. Not only does America have an educational shortfall for a large part of its population, it is also schooling too many in its better-educated segment for the wrong occupations.
What is needed is a new definition of "career" that focuses less on a progression up a career ladder in a profession or corporation and more on recognizing opportunities and adapting. Rather than focusing on a one-career preparation path, current and future workers need a higher quality of education that integrates general knowledge in both the arts and sciences with emerging technology.
What Companies Are Doing
Nearly seven of 10 employers surveyed in 1998 said that high-school graduates lack the skills to succeed at work. The National Association of Manufacturers reported that 40% of all 17-year-olds do not have the math skills, and 60% lack the reading skills, to hold down a production job at a manufacturing company.
These gloomy surveys point to the basic reasons for the unrelenting competition for skilled labor. If businesses are to get the work force they need to succeed in the future, they must become more active in at least two ways: (1) by partnering with their local community and education system to create realistic career-preparation programs and (2) by investing in training their own employees-and developing them by encouraging lifelong learning.
This is paragraph 9 from the main watchtower article:
When we think of cost, we usually think of financial expenditures. In some countries, higher education is government sponsored and qualified students do not have to pay fees or tuition. In most places, however, higher education is expensive and is getting more so. A New York Times Op-Ed article observes: “Higher education used to be regarded as an engine of opportunity. Now it’s certifying the gap between the haves and the have-lesses.”In other words, quality higher education is fast becoming the domain of the rich and influential, who put their children through it to ensure that they too become the rich and influential of this system. Should Christian parents choose such a goal for their children?—Philippians 3:7,8; James 4:4.
Another indication that going to college might not be something that Christian parents would want to do. So – Here’s the New York Times article from April 30, 2004
Yet another string of studies confirms what any high school senior or parent who has just weathered the college admissions mating dance already knew -- it's a cutthroat competition where money matters more than ever. Teenagers from wealthy families are beating out middle- and working-class youngsters, both at top private colleges and flagship state universities whose historic mission of broad access is receding into memory. The trend means that ''smart poor kids,'' as the educator Terry Hartle bluntly puts it, ''go to college at the same rate as stupid rich kids.''
A lot of not-so-secret factors are at play in this market. In pursuit of competitive advantage, well-off parents spend thousands of dollars on test prep courses, college admission summer camps and ''dress for success'' counseling. They are more adept than their less well-heeled rivals at working the system; that brings results, especially at prestigious universities.
At the other end of the spectrum, the inequity is worsening as cash-starved state schools are forced to raise tuition -- an average of 14 percent last year. For fall 2003, for example, community college fees in California rose to $18 a class hour from $11. Though that typically amounts to only about $100 a semester, enrollment was more than 100,000 below the state's projections. Why? Sticker shock scares away poorer students from even applying.
The one bright spot is that academic leaders are now discussing this wealth gap. William Bowen, the former president of Princeton, made headlines when he assailed elite colleges -- presumably including his own -- as ''bastions of privilege'' and urged putting ''a thumb on the scale'' for poor students. Amherst's president, Anthony Marx, has made the same argument. Harvard's president, Lawrence Summers, announced that parents who earn less than $40,000 a year will no longer be asked to contribute financially to their offspring's education. That's a start, but much more is needed if such students are going to be a presence in Harvard Yard.
Those who run universities bear considerable responsibility for creating these inequities -- and not only in admissions. These trends are just the most visible sign of how much the market ethic has come to dominate higher education. To be sure, dollars have always greased the wheels of academe. What is new and troubling is the raw power that money exerts over all of higher education, including the emphasis on research that adds less to the storehouse of knowledge than to the institutional coffers, and the shift from liberal arts to the ''practical arts.'' While competition has strengthened some colleges, embedded in the very idea of university are values the market does not honor: the belief in a community of scholars and not a confederacy of self-seekers; in the idea of openness and not ownership; and in the student as an acolyte whose preferences are to be formed, not a consumer whose preferences are to be satisfied.
The operations of admissions offices display the marketers' handiwork. Consider the reliance on early admissions. That practice has no academic justification, just a market rationale -- the crucial U.S. News & World Report rankings stress selectivity, and colleges favor early decision because those accepted are expected to enroll. Going this route improves a student's chances by as much as 50 percent, but only those whose families don't have to shop around for the best aid package can afford to take advantage of this version of affirmative action.
Admissions decisions are, more and more, based on statistical models that leave little room for hunches about character and potential. The paper credentials of students -- A averages and high SAT scores -- don't necessarily translate into intellectual fireworks. Many top-performing high school students are burnt out by the time they're freshmen, while working-class teenagers and community college transfers with less sterling records arrive with a hunger for learning and often fare at least as well.
These new models are also intended to increase revenues by shrinking scholarships -- what the new breed of ''enrollment managers'' calls the discount from the tuition sticker price. In an environment where admissions offices are sometimes referred to as profit centers, the ''full payers,'' students from wealthy families, are in greatest demand. In addition, aid, which has historically been based on need, is increasingly being granted on academic merit. A dozen states have also adopted this approach, awarding millions of dollars a year in merit scholarships to students who would have attended college anyway, instead of helping those who otherwise can't afford an education.
The bottom line is that five out of every six qualified seniors whose families earn more than $75,000 -- but fewer than half of those whose families earn less than $25,000 -- enroll in a four-year college. Higher education used to be regarded as an engine of opportunity. Now it's certifying the gap between the haves and the have-lesses.
What's to be done? An infusion of need-based aid is critical for public universities. The market would be fairer if rivals committed themselves to recruiting at working-class and inner-city schools; to democratizing access to good college advising; and to making need, not market savvy, the basis for financial aid.
The current focus on admission inequities provides an opening for a long-overdue public discussion about what's wrong with market-driven higher education -- a discussion that identifies the spheres where money shouldn't be the coin of the realm. Paradoxically, market-based concerns -- anxiety about the outsourcing of jobs for knowledge workers -- may be the Sputnik crisis of this era, prompting changes in higher education that make it easier for teenagers who don't come from affluence to get the education needed to compete for those jobs.
Was this article saying that greedy wealthy people are choosing college for their kids so that their kids can be rich an influential like themselves? Does it indicate that sending your kids to college is somehow violating some Christian ideal? That’s how the watchtower summarized it. But the article is merely saying that more aid needs to be made available so that everyone can get a college education. The problem is the price is too high and not everyone can afford it.
Do you think these quotes were deceptively used? Were they used to convey the ideas the author’s intended?
You can read the entire Newsweek article from their website here: http://www.newsweek.com/id/90037/output/print
The American educator article is here: http://www.aft.org/pubs-reports/american_educator/spring2004/collegedegree.html
Monday, June 30, 2008
Watchtower Comments - Missionary
Interview with L. Goller, graduate of the Watchtower School of Gilead, Jehovah's Witnesses' missionary program.
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Saturday, June 28, 2008
Fear of being shunned.
A Jehovah's Witness speaks out by means of an animated character for fear of being disfellowshipped.
Wedding Rings - Pagan, but Allowed
Watchtower 1952 June 15 pp.361-2 The Marriage Ceremony
Watchtower 1956 September 15 p.571 Marriage Ceremony and Requirements
Watchtower 1972 January 15 p.63 Questions from Readers
We, of course, recognize that rings are used extensively in many pagan rituals. This fact, however, in no wise prohibits their use in any Christian service, particularly when the Bible mentions their use with approval. It is certainly more reasonable to expect that Satan, the mimic god, copied their use from Jehovah, rather than to accept the untenable position that Jehovah copied their use from demonic heathen practices. However, if some prefer to dispense with them in their marriage service, it is their right to do so. On this point let each one feel quite free to do that which is proper and right in his own mind.
Watchtower 1956 September 15 p.571 Marriage Ceremony and Requirements
Even where the wedding ring is recognized as marking a married woman and serves notice upon anyone with passionate desires, some may conscientiously object to featuring a ring in the ceremony, having in mind the pagan origin of the customary wedding ring in Christendom.
Watchtower 1972 January 15 p.63 Questions from Readers
Of course, our concern is greater as regards the use of wedding rings, since this relates, not to minor secular matters, but to the marriage relationship, which the Christian rightly views as sacred before God. Really, the question is not so much whether wedding rings were first used by pagans but whether they were originally used as part of false religious practices and still retain such religious significance. As has been shown, the historical evidence does not allow for any definite conclusion on this.For the full quotes, visit http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/wedding_rings.html
Thursday, June 26, 2008
Excommunication/Disfellowshipping is pagan practice
Here is a scan of the Awake-1947-January-8-p.27. This scan was made avialible by Atlantis at JWD.JWs are very strict when it comes to holidays with pagan origins, however they practice disfellowshipping, something they once claimed to have pagan origins.
Saturday, June 21, 2008
1975
In 1967, Jehovah's Witness Circuit Overseer, Charles Sunutko, gave this public talk in which it is strongly inferred that the end of the world was scheduled to arrive in 1975.
This information was also disseminated to JW's worldwide through Watchtower publications and magazines over the proceeding 7 years. This information caused true believing Jehovah's Witnesses to sell their homes, belongings, and businesses, donating mass amounts of money to the WTBTS to "further the preaching work" in order to save as many lives as possible from the impending doom.
See also http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/1975.html for a list of quotes promoting 1975.
This information was also disseminated to JW's worldwide through Watchtower publications and magazines over the proceeding 7 years. This information caused true believing Jehovah's Witnesses to sell their homes, belongings, and businesses, donating mass amounts of money to the WTBTS to "further the preaching work" in order to save as many lives as possible from the impending doom.
See also http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/1975.html for a list of quotes promoting 1975.
Friday, June 20, 2008
Watchtower Blood Component/Fraction Deception
Comment made by 'jwfacts' at JWD
The Watchtower attempts to create a semblance of logic to its allowance of blood fractions by presenting the concept that blood consists of four primary "components". Use of these components are unchristian. These components can be broken into "fractions", which are acceptable to use. (w04 6/15 p. 21)
This Watchtower distinction of fractions from components is used to make it appear that a component is somehow different and hence more of a violation when used than a fraction. The fact is that a component is a fraction, these are interchangeable terms. Many medical texts refer to red and white blood cells as fractions. Likewise, text books discuss the breakdown of plasma into components.
The classification of blood into the four major components or fractions of plasma, red cells, white cells and platelets is a common one. It is accurate, albeit a basic simplification that has arisen from what results when blood is processed through a centrifuge. The result is plasma buffy coat (white cells and platelets) red cells.
However, this classification is only one of many ways to describe blood.
Blood is alternatively classified as being made of four major components of plasma, fat globules, chemicals and gas - with red and white cells being considered fractions of plasma. (http://www.mcghealth.org/greystoneData/content.asp?pageid=P02316)
Alternatively, "blood consist of cellular material (99% red blood cells, with white blood cells and platelets making up the remainder), water, amino acids, proteins, carbohydrates, lipids, hormones, vitamins, electrolytes, dissolved gases, and cellular wastes." http://chemistry.about.com/cs/5/f/blbloodcomp.htm
Simply put, blood plasma is a liquid made up of water, water red cell, white cells, platelets, proteins, glucose, mineral ions, hormones, carbon dioxide, immunoglobulins, growth factors, albumin, plus a host of other substances.
Watchtower discussion that blood comprises four components is deceptive; as their use of this definition is to make it appear breaking a component into a fraction becomes acceptable. In reality, many of the allowed "fractions" are suspended in the plasma in much the same manner "components" such as red cells are suspended in plasma.
For example, the hierarchal system the Watchtower presents is intended for it to appear that a platelet is more offensive to God than Immunoglobulin. However, in reality these are both components suspended in the plasma, and whilst "acceptable" immunoglobulin composes 1.7%, platelets compose only 0.5% of the volume of blood.
The Bible writers were unaware of any of these definitions. Blood was not separated by a centrifuge. Blood was simply regarded as blood. To contain some semblance of logic, the Watchtower should either allow blood use, or not allow it - in any form. If it wishes to disallow whole blood but (somewhat illogically) allow blood fractions, then all fractions should be considered acceptable, including red and white cells.
Thursday, June 19, 2008
Monday, June 16, 2008
Can you explain "the last days"?
post originated by Mary at JWD... thanx
OK, I was working on my project about "New Light" and I came across a very interesting statement that was made 24 years ago via the WT:
December 1, 1984 Watchtower:
"....Have apostates who claim that "the last days" began at Pentecost and cover the entire Christian Era promoted Christian alertness? Have they not, rather, induced spiritual sleepiness?...."
February 15, 2008 Watchtower:
".....Since Jesus did not use negative qualifiers when speaking to them about "this generation," the apostles would no doubt have understood that they and their fellow disciples were to be part of the "generation" that would not pass away "until all these things [would] occur....."
So let me get this straight: If you believe that "the last days" started 2,000 years ago at Pentecost, then you're an 'apostate', but if you believe that "this generation" which is supposed to see "the last days", started 2,000 years ago, you're 'keeping up with Jehovah's Organization.
Am I reading this right? I wasn't even aware of the 1984 quote before, but I think, given the 'new light' about "this generation" and how it supposedly started 2,000 years ago and has covered the entire Christian Era, is quite interesting and I'd love to know how a Witness would answer you on that one.
Tuesday, June 10, 2008
Saddened that so many have died
This story breaks my heart.
I didn't have the strength to read all these experiences.
http://www.ajwrb.org/experiences/index.shtml
I didn't have the strength to read all these experiences.
http://www.ajwrb.org/experiences/index.shtml
Saturday, June 7, 2008
Members of the United Nations
United Nations releases a letter indicating that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society was a member of the NGO.
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf
JW's clearly going 'beyond the things written'
Perusing JWD, some interesting points were made as to unscriptural practices by the WTBS. Here are some interesting comments made:
Awakened at Gilead
Seeker4
Dagney
Prov1320
DNCall
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Awakened at Gilead
1. "great crowd" of "other sheep". These expressions don't appear in the Bible together and they are different concepts. The juxtaposition confuses JWs into thinking they are almost the same.
2. "7 Gentile times"... Same explanation as above
3. "paradise earth". this expression doesn't appear in the Bible. Check out the old insight book... Paradise in the Bible is always talking about heaven.....
Seeker4
If a married couple have sex after one of them has committed adultery, this nullifies being able to use the adultery as the basis for a scriptural divorce.
Dagney
Grooooooooowing to perfection in a paradise earth.
Prov1320
My favourite is the 2 year "forgiveness" rule.
If you committed a sin (up until a few years ago this also included adultery or fornication), but no one found out about it, but your exemplary behaviour over the past 2 years has demonstrated that Jehovah's continues to bless you, then you are "forgiven" and neither reproved or removed from congregational responsibilities.
DNCall
When Paul says to "remove the wicked man from among yourselves [the congregation]" he does not state that he should be removed from your family, if he happens to be a relative. In harmony with Paul's other words regarding understanding and discernment, it would be up to each Christian to determine how to handle the family situation based on any number of variables. That is precisely why Paul did not state a rule with respect to family members. However, the Society certainly does.
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All the recent stuff about how, after the Great Trib and into the 1000 years, our lives will be ALL about the hard work of burying the dead, cleaning up the earth, building houses for the resurrected ones, teaching said resurrected ones the truth. G. Losch said in his recent Hawaiian discourse that, while we may think it'll be a long vacation, that certainly won't be the case. It's going to be very hard work. (Meanwhile the anointed are in heaven directing us. 2nd class citizens....) In all seriousness I found those discussions very, very depressing. (One publisher stated that it makes you wonder if it's all worthwhile...) And also none of it is in scripture. However, God is stretching out his hand and satisfying the desires of every. Living. Thing.
Friday, June 6, 2008
NBC report
When I came to realize that this was a problem and not just lies, I shook with fear remembering all the times my little one would be off running around the KH or off playing in someone’s house after the BS.
Monday, May 26, 2008
Watchtower Comments - 5.26.08 Valueless Propaganda
Definitive examples of propaganda and fallacy in the April 15, 2008 Watchtower.
Saturday, May 24, 2008
Watchtower Comments 4.14.08 The Generation
The Watchtower changes Witness beliefs about the generation...again. From The Watchtower February 15, 2008 issue, pages 21-25.
Can you explain.
original comment made by catbert at JWD
Isaiah 44:6 6 “This is what Jehovah has said, the King of Israel and the Repurchaser of him, Jehovah of armies, ‘I am the first and I am the last, and besides me there is no God.
Notice Jehovah calls himself the "first and the last", and there is no other god but him.
JW's version of John 1:1 1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
JW's teach that Jesus was a god, but Isaiah 44:6 says there is no other god but Jehovah.
Revelation 2:8 8 “And to the angel of the congregation in Smyr´na write: These are the things that he says, ‘the First and the Last,’ who became dead and came to life [again],
This is Jesus talking, since he he was dead and came back to life. Notice Jesus calls himself the fist and the last. Jehovah also calls himself the "first and the last".
Monday, March 31, 2008
Don Cameron author of "Captives of a Concept"
Watchtower Comments interviews Don Cameron author of "Captives of a Concept." A summary of the concept that is enforced in the 3.10.08 Watchtower study (1/15 issue pg 24).
See more about the book at:
http://www.captivesofaconcept.com
See more about the book at:
http://www.captivesofaconcept.com
Monday, March 10, 2008
Watchtower Comments 3.10.08 Be Guided
Comments you will not hear at the Watchtower Study of Jehovah's Witnesses, for the week of March 10-16, 2008. From The Watchtower 1/15/2008 page 24-28.
How the leadership of JWs, the Governing Body of a few men, cloak their role as the "channel" of God's direction using mind control, fallacy and loaded language.
How the leadership of JWs, the Governing Body of a few men, cloak their role as the "channel" of God's direction using mind control, fallacy and loaded language.
Monday, March 3, 2008
Watchtower Comments - Counted Worthy
How the Watchtower changed the understanding of who goes to heaven: the "new light" on 1935. From the Watchtower issue 1.15.08 pages 20-24.
Monday, February 25, 2008
Watchtower Comments 2.25.08 Responding
Comments you will not hear at the Watchtower Study of Jehovah's Witnesses, for the week of Feb 25-Mar 2, 2008. JW growth, the "missing" number of members, and how population growth adds enormous numbers to those doomed to destruction.
Monday, February 18, 2008
Watchtower Comments 2.18.08 Pay Attention
Week of Feb 18-24, 2008. How JWs use Bible Studies to convert new members and the challenge of explaining "relatively simple" doctrine.
Friday, February 15, 2008
Reading between the lines
From the February 15, 2008 study articles: "Keep Jehovah Before You Constantly/Walk in Jehovah's Ways"
Monday, February 11, 2008
Watchtower Comments 2.11.08 Keep Watching
The Watchtower's "spiritual confusion" of the 1914 generation, spiritistic origins and the "passive subservience" of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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